This veneer of appearing ‘fine’ and keeping things to yourself keeps people at a distance. In your late teens and early 20s, nice guys are the ones who go to proms and banquets with you because they like you as a person; not just so they can get inside of your pants. Go have some fun. The worst instance was senior prom. We either tell them that it starts earlier than it does or we don’t make any arrangements that are dependent on them. I doubt he will care, anyhow. Frankly, if I was going to be late to a date, I would call the guy and say "hey, I'm sorry, I'm running late, I had to (insert legit reason for being late here)". Narcissists *always* overplay their hand. She was exactly 15 minutes late to everything we planned and acted as though the Universe caused her to be late. You’ve gotta feel to heal. That doesn’t make sense. OR wait-and-see: If he does contact you, then YOU get back to HIM a week later, saying, “Thank you, but I’m busy right now.” DON’T explain why you are busy. #selflove #selfcare #baggagereclaim #selfworthquotes #expressyourself #boundaries #healthyboundaries #recoveringpeoplepleaser #peoplepleaser #peoplepleasing #selfcarequotes #expressyourself #trustyourself #listentoyourgut #listentoyourbody #takecareofyourself #takecareofyou ... Narcissists *always* overplay their hand. This is not a family, you cannot ‘require them to do so’ in terms of protecting you – you must experiment with different ways till you figure out how to make it work for you in this job. I’m working on changing it, but it’s unconscious, so it’s difficult. If however the guy you are going out on a date with is going on forever and a day about his life, his job, his car, his family, his dogs …his, his his …. I know why you felt motivated when he (JERK/LIAR) was around because feeling loved and wanted is special. I come from a family which is pretty chaotic, and was brought up to think it somehow funny to be flakey, unreliable and have no boundaries. I thought it was just one of my charming quirks. Even when he's supposed to pick me up. Habits are based on associations that become cues and triggers for us to think, feel and act. I was raised by the self-absorbed so I picked up some very bad habits. It was like she was trying to please everyone at the same time and not really stopping to think about what she wanted and who she should really give her precious time to. And I was completely floored when in month 6 he stood me up with no call or apology. 6.I’m not very mature and I was not well equipped to be in a relationship with you. I think it drives him crazy that his bulldozing hasn’t been effective, so he is upping the ante by getting physical and setting me up to take responsibility for his mistakes. There is no such thing as being late if you are in the building because you know about said meeting etc. #baggagereclaim #lonelinessquotes #loneliness #lonelinessquotes #mentalhealthawareness #mentalhealthmatters #recoveringperfectionist #recoveringpeoplepleaser #peoplepleasing #peoplepleasers #expressyourself #emotionalintelligence ... A big theme of my forties has been slowing down and honouring my bandwidth. I organized my master bedroom closet (shoes, hand bags, jewelry, color coded and sorted clothes). I finally got the message of who he really was when I realized he duped some lady with a job & a house to have his baby so he can go on making pizzas and drinking instead of actually growing up and being the near 30-yr-old man he actually is. Your tone feels quite unhelpful, aggressive and not in keeping with the spirit of this site. Still trying to dominate/control, but using a different tactic. Five years on, including a year’s break in between after losing my father and feeling a bit lost between that and turning forty, almost 1.8 million downloads, and having accompanied people’s bath and bed times, gym sessions, walks, runs, hikes, mountain climbing (literally and figuratively), chill sessions and so much more, I found it fitting to celebrate with the person who kickstarted it. They were sometimes prepared to make themselves and possibly others ill just so they didn't have to say no, and this realisation shook them up. So, the next time you're theorizing how to know if a guy likes you, follow these breadcrumbs leading you to the light of love.. I am missing something? Talk to them, help them dig deeper to understand what are some other (sometimes it is internal and illusive) issues they are having that are making them late. You know like when we keep finding ourselves in repeat situations or the problem we’ve hoped will go away without us having to assert ourselves snowballs and becomes acutely uncomfortable. This website uses cookies to improve your experience. My alarm bells were going off and at the same time I felt somewhat paralyzed. If he shows up and acts as if it's just a speed bump in his date.. Deuces dude. #baggagereclaim #recoveringpeoplepleaser #healthyrelationships #healthyrelationshipsmatter #innerchildhealing #innerchild #takecareofyourself #expressyourself #listentoyourbody #selfcarequotes #peoplepleaser #peoplepleasing #emotionalneeds #boundaries #healthyboundaries #codependentnomore #emotionalhealth #emotionalintelligence ... We can't pay bills, end suffering or own our responsibilities with ‘good intentions’. Now, while these causes so far have fallen on the man, ladies, you have to take responsibility sometimes. well I'd wait about 30 min max but that's only if he has called or texted you letting you know. For whatever reason it has been tough for me to develop new friendships. Any cookies that may not be particularly necessary for the website to function and is used specifically to collect user personal data via analytics, ads, other embedded contents are termed as non-necessary cookies. save over 30% on BREAK THE CYCLE OF EMOTIONAL UNAVAILABILITY, the online course. He use to help me do projects and it was so much fun. Didn’t I Mean Something To Them? When I got downstairs and realized they were gone, I was devastated. He doesn't realize how much it bothers me. Your comment reminded me of incidents like this from my childhood. It’s all about control. This is harsh advice. And then responded and tweaked and adapted as I went. Don't ever wait on a guy. When it’s only our own time that we’re messing with, we’re free to do with it what we want although we’re not free of the consequences of not taking care of our time. If it’s someone who genuinely cares about me, they aren’t ever more than 10 minutes late again. If I mattered, he would ensure he was on time. And again, maybe it sounds obsessive to people who can get places on time without doing all this…but this is what I have to do to be on time. I had a date be late because he didn't know where our meeting place was exactly when he suggested that particular place. When a guy cancels a date, what to say is very important because this will really leave an impression to the guy. She struggles with superficial friendships and often feels lost and at sea.Her family live far away from her, all around the world and she surrounds herself with friends to bat away loneliness. If it's less than that, I'd wait. it depends on how late he is, if hes more than 15 minutes late, and he doesnt have a valid reason (like traffic or helping someone or something along those lines) then it shows that hes not very punctual and is probably a bad planner and will be consistently late. She was devastated she made me feel that way and has never done that again. Addiction = the state of being enslaved to a habit or practice or to something that is psychologically or physically habit-forming, as narcotics, to such an extent that its cessation causes severe trauma. I’d hear, ‘I’ll text you after work and we’ll hang out,’ and never hear from him until the next day: ‘I got busy/I fell asleep/I didn’t hear from you either…’ I think part of the reason I didn’t break up with him then and there was that his behavior was SO outrageous, I simply couldn’t believe it and became delusional to reality! That is far beyond the bounds of acceptability. (um, who do I have to blame after that one??) The issue with the therapist seems to have stuck with you and of course too what your ex did the one time you were late. Luckily, it was in a place with a lot of interesting people and I got to people watch and clean up my email. Pandemic or not, it's always more than OK to say no. The ex-EUM ass did the same thing! I expressed that I felt he didn’t think my time was valuable (unlike his of course!) This post has helped me to be more empathetic towards her. When I was in high school, I had a friend who was always late. there are of course legitimate reasons to be late, but in most cases people who are late are jerks who think their time is more important than yours. upset? Address Your Needs. Not being late when we had plans to meet, but cancelling on me repeatedly (and last minute) and taking forever to text me back (days sometimes!). Sure, it might be that we’ve become lost in an unhealthy relationship. (This post really has got me thinking). So I know he thought all the amazing things he did for me (and they certainly could be) should somehow make up for the fact that he would frequently cancel on me. Years ago I subscribed to:   http://www.flylady.net/. So now that I am out of the marriage I can handle my own time schedule. He doesn't realize how much it bothers me. Andy, it’s great that you recognize it and know it may be family history. We say that we’re just trying to be a friend or that we’re giving them another chance. Sure, it might be that we’ve become lost in an unhealthy relationship. I was just wondering if one of your ways to protect yourself in those instances was to stop ‘showing up’ so to speak. I personally thought it was shameless to harass people (and she wasn’t joking when she told us to be there on time) then show up 30 minutes late yourself. There was one guy who didn’t follow through on plans to come out and see me. Then he’ll leave you, again, wanting more. @MJ, I checked out the project pages. So, how am I going to get to work, and how long will it take me to travel from the place I live to the place I work? My boss did send an email saying last minute requests have to go to him. Don’t bring up the family too much as it is too soon to take an interest in the family. The ex AC would do this. what are YOUR NEEDS in this company – physical and emotional? And you are absolutely right, this person avoids conflict and is a people pleaser who thinks he can build up good behavior credits. I’ll be professional, but I’m not taking it lying down. If you do not – for what reason I cannot comprehend – do not respond. In the past, I can remember being late on purpose. Your opinion is the only one that should count here. And the NPD female coworker I knew, when we were still on friendly terms (so I thought), made a birthday plan with me to go to an event on a Saturday – made a big deal of getting there by 7:30 P, which meant we should be on our way by 6:30. I’m still cautious with him and everyone, but based on my experience with him/interactions, he has been supportive, far from perfect, but supportive. After we broke up he told me in a joking way that, “I guess I am just not a planning ahead kind of guy”. Is this is the way you want to be treated? People are late and it’s (probably always) because of them and not you. And you have to stand up for yourself but also know when that will work and when it won’t. I always pre-empt it by telling people that I’m always late and let people know by phone or text when I’m running late, believing that absolves me from any blame and that other people should be okay with it. I just expect of myself and work me to the end result. Find Out How To Respond When Someone Important To You (your Partner, A Friend, Or A Family Member) Is Always Running Late. If you read my post again you’ll see that I am trying to be fully accountable for my actions and make positive changes to benefit myself and those around me. BTW, she has a car and I have to take public transport and she is still always late. And when you can accept that you’re not perfect or capable of Jedi mind tricking the universe with your goodness, you can finally forgive yourself for not being perfect and be more you instead. Social media doesn’t help, nor does the constant marketing of success and happiness that can trigger this sense that you and your life aren’t up to scratch. The unfortunate thing about jobs is that yes the boss’s word is gold even and especially if he’s lying and in the wrong – that is life. He’s the type of person where it will just continue to escalate if I don’t. David, 20 Braden, 20 Cameron, 23 Ben, 27 Nate, 30. AskWomen: A subreddit dedicated to asking women questions about their thoughts, lives, and experiences; providing a place where all women can comfortably and candidly share their responses in a non-judgmental space. There are no scapegoats, there are no conspiracies. Rest. Or to impress me, he would have a list of things he was working on, etc., etc. Now, I have nothing but time on my hands. They were always on time. Our first date went really well and we ended up chatting until early hours of morning. Then I noticed how much I had let neatness “go” in my environment. In my career (any career really) the fastest way to get nowhere is to disrespect people’s time and being late is the most blatant way. There is likely going to be problems with compatibility. I do remember that my gut feeling as a result of this, was that she was inexperienced/focusing on things not important or happening – and I didn’t act on it because at the time I felt there was no other alternative – so no I didn’t want to be vulnerable with this person in reality and it may have been some form of unconscious control because I didn’t trust her? But having a thin skin isn’t an option – people will take advantage, and also it might make you blow things out of proportion. Fascinating. For him to go on a rant and publicly humiliate you for being 5 minutes late after walking 3 miles to meet with him!!! There have been other times where he wasn't late but his time management issues caused for plans to be ruined. Now: I’m going to assume you want to know how to get a girlfriend and hope to keep her around. Five guys, ages 20 – 30, opened up about what goes through their minds before they hit send. Wow. It was my Mom’s passive-aggressive way of getting back at Dad for all of his childish behavior. 9.I don’t know what I want and that’s my problem to solve. You know, these ACs and EUMs are fully able to get places on time when it is important to them. As Yoda says: “There is no try. or writing/reading posts and exorcising your feelings, only to actually DO nothing active about it? I didn’t like this as I felt like he wanted to get to know her too because she lived closer to him. He was once over an hour late (but I was sitting with a friend so I didn't leave) At first it wasn't so bad. It;s simply not difficult to be on time, or change one’s behaviour in this respect. But he was an often-makes-plans-and-doesn’t-follow-through type of guy. 6. Feck that!!! But trust me: a man who’s genuinely interested in you would have already beaten you to it. What we do or we don’t accept in terms of our own timekeeping and that of others, is personal, so what’s OK for one person or a particular relationship isn’t going to work for another. More than once he kept me waiting in the car for him for over an hour. The truth was, I just couldn’t get it together, and didn’t understand the concept of wasting other people’s time. He has a strong/dominant/aggressive personality. You didn’t deserve the way you were treated by any of those people. You’re right about there being nothing urgent that couldn’t go unfinished. This means that a habit may have been formed to get back at someone else in their past and then it became their default and they haven’t realised how it’s not working for them when they for instance, keep pushing the boundaries with the time they show up at work. I’ve heard from so many people who were shocked by their discomfort with saying no *even when* it came to the matter of their health and comfort levels. When did common courtesy die a death? “…if their life is a disaster, they never get out the door in time.” Yes. Contradictions: I want to date but I don’t want a relationship but I don’t want to date someone who’s casual either. You might feel like a scapegoat. Hardcore, and most definitely not warranted. I also want to hug you and tell you he’s an abusive, controlling, manipulative creep and it’s not your fault, you didn’t do anything wrong. Once he invited me ‘for a ride’ and I’m sure it was only so he wouldn’t have to pay for parking. Love and peace to all.x, Fifteen minutes TOPS with a damn good explanation. Both are ways of maintaining a touch of chaos. Of course, his interest feels wonderful, after all, you are fabulous.But, let's call a spade a spade, he doesn't even know you yet, so how can he actually know how fab you really are? It doesn’t matter. Then he disappeared. Could Andy be addicted to a sub conscious form of self harm? I don’t like to take them because they really mess with my memory. It might not have been what they intended, but their actions do have consequences that shouldn’t only be experienced by you. Of course I was late for school, and I still didn’t learn my lesson when I was punished for being late by my teacher; whereas, her teacher was lenient, and she went unpunished. Apologised & repeated the same behaviour. Another time he simply could have invited me inside but obviously wanted to keep me a secret, so instead of doing that or leaving, he kept me waiting. Having someone unreliable is hurtful and not worth the stress for the little bit of companionship you get. For you to be cringing it sounds like you are still accepting the blame/responsibility. I’m so sorry. After I told him about what happened with the director and we talked about another situation where a director responded defensively (he was In on the email) – he told me that I’m doing a great job and to keep doing what I’m doing. Why Do They Keep Having Sex With Me If They’re Not Interested Or Don’t Want The Relationship I Want? It’s a way of letting trusted loved ones in, humanising you, and also healing your neglected younger self. *I can and will enforce a firmer boundary with this guy as it is very clear he will do whatever it takes to get his way. He may or may not be the kind of guy who’s obsessed with his looks- but one thing is for sure, he’s obsessed with himself. You are a professional. He let people know that there wasn’t going to be anyone there to sign checks – his way of supporting me – keeping me from being pushed/put in a bad position? Instead of helping you, her reaction hurt you. We'll assume you're ok with this, but you can opt-out if you wish. I understand emergency situations, but this seems to be a regular pattern. It’s these assumptions and judgments that stop us from humanising ourselves and others. How could that SOB do this to me? However it is also about her insecurity and need for control. You explain how at least two people in your life have had a problem with your lateness and you are remorseful for it. This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. 2.You were right to cut things short and step back. 1. so when this started happening this built a huge paranoia – not helpful – that further eroded the non-trusting-relationship further – conveniently to my relief in the end – as you point out – seeing as I became frightened of her inexperience and what it was going to result in for me – which was in reality loads of trouble being labeled as something actually I am not normally. I struggle with staying organized and know that’s something I need to work on. I’m my top priority. Yours and my EUMs are man-boys. A narcissist. Andy, addiction? 10 minutes is an acceptable window, he could have tried to be here early and traffic delayed him 20 minutes. I find people who habitually keep others waiting usually have other bad social habits as well. I think someone said something about what he did to me. 8.I pursue younger women because they are not demanding and have low expectations that I can meet – at least for awhile. Just ignore him; he’s gonna keep on fishing in the same pond forever if you don’t. Maybe my words rang so true because I have lived it too. The pay off was a sense of purose, mixed with superiority, comfort, competence, and…I was motivated …, happy with my accomplishments, until I realized how much other people were sucking me dry, (…duped…taken advantage of…people needed to get up off their lazy asses and do it their damn-selves…not my responsibility! Send me your chore list and I will knock it out (smile). Breaking my number of addictions actually did involve me just stopping/ non contact and refusing to allow myself to do it again for as long as possible – while working hard on myself – then forgiving myself when I failed and caved in, then just stopping again. I apologized! Thank you, Oona. As has been said on here time and again, it’s not your job to teach a grown person how to be respectful – that was their parent[s]’ job. I’m still amazed at the level of insensitivity, lack of accountability and cruelty people are capable of. This guy has crossed the line and I don’t deserve that. You didn’t deserve that. Really? I hate being late but I have the decency to say I will be late. I was thrilled. Some don't put much thought into it, but others use their response time to send a clear message about their feelings for the recipient. I don’t know if she realized how he handled it – making it look like it was my fault. I can totally see that this guy has got me on a hook, big time. I just expect of myself and work me to the end result. He also sees you as someone he'd casually date instead of be serious about because it means he doesn't have to do too much work. Anyhow I NEED to focus on my house. I had a friend who did this over and over; would change plans, or just stand me up. I agree with other comments: Just stop doing that. Which I think, is a variation on the whole “I don’t respect your time” thing. But the good news: this is not out of your control, there is a method to the madness and if you’re stubborn enough you will find it! I'd be annoyed and leave after about 15 minutes. That made life easier. I’ll be %$#@ed if I won’t take care of me now. No wonder I was stressed out all the time. Calla, you’re still hooked on him. Pathetic excuses for man kind. They manage to accommodate for possible traffic, be responsible, and leave early enough to get to our appointed meeting place without any issues. There are ways around this, you have to find your style of dealing with people, that style has to be professional and has to help you get ahead in your career. Boyfriend is always late and I'm frustrated; Boyfriend is always late and I'm frustrated. – I am not perfect – but I personally don’t see black and white on this issue, I have experienced, it can be used to emotionally abuse, as any other perceived fault by a willing abuser, and I repeat – depending on the circumstances for someone being late ie the frequency and amount / the situation AND my gut feeling about the relationship in general – depends on how I feel/react when someone turns up late for me. They'll step up with consistent actions that match their words. One last thing – have you looked at betrayal and trauma bonding? She justifies that behavior by making a “funny” (NOT) out of it? What happened when my Dad finally showed up? It always feel like I’m being manipulative or doing something wrong, but I think that may be old stuff. Classes, concerts, movies, and of course meetings and appointments. In no way was he in the wrong for failing to show up. Same with friends. I dumped him flat, via email with two words. People can only treat us how we allow them to, however, and anyone who waits around for four hours is saying, “Treat me any way you want. Would you blame or shame a loved one or a small child for the same thing? It's fine if they've let me know. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. Thirty years later, I leave extra early to make sure I’m on time for people. Also in my experience – all good things went wrong spectacularly – so it was also an exercise in protecting myself by distancing myself from my own successes or potential successes. OH Gosh Calla, I recognise that and yes, it is called control and it just plain mean paltry behaviour… and manipulative. Isn’t it horrible to be ignored like that? Instead your needs and feelings were treated as if they didn’t matter, as if you didn’t matter. While your man may always be busy and have needs, be sure to address your needs in the relationship as well. There, guys sounded off on how they text. If we’re not intentional about factoring us into our actions and choices, we will suffer the effects of living our life as if we exist solely for the consumption of others. He crossed another line yesterday. Always On Time. The issue behind my feelings now are to do with me feeling let down by people who I depended on and also over responsible for issues that were mistakes I have rectified – and not perpetual ongoing problem’s or crimes – as some would have people feel, in order to dump guilt about their own fallibility’s. Turns out that was just the tip of the iceberg for his unreasonable disrespectful behaviour. A bit of both I think as she often spontaneously takes little detours even when we are running late for something else. It is important to me to be on time and I think it does show disrespect to others to be late repeatedly. – I wasn’t bothered about it because I was on time for most other things and genuinely thought it can’t be – I was leaving to go to appointments with her really early using my phone clock and it turns out, sitting outside and waiting in the car and then using the clock in the car without realizing it, to judge when to go up to the appointment – only this was the clock that was wrong by about 18 minutes! This is as much a note to self as it is a public service announcement. My boss knew exactly what the other director had done! Good job for recognizing her overreaction and getting away from her (protecting yourself)! *I have been reading/ applying everything I can to stay, if possible, while still protecting myself so I can learn how to protect myself with these people, because I realize this is my issue. Take care of you. We are our primary caregiver once we become adults, so we have to parent and nurture those younger, neglected parts of ourselves by gradually learning to meet our needs. When my Dad actually had to pick me up on rare occasions, he wouldn’t show up. It's OK to ask for help. If someone has an addiction would your advice be to “just stop doing that”? When I told her I was angry, she said I was overreacting… Then she switched tactics, and said I made her cry (I wasn’t yelling or anything – I calmly said I felt angry about the situation). And at some point, once we’ve had our hand burnt a few times, we have to stop giving them the benefit not only of us doubting ourselves but of us not being truly honest with ourselves about what we’re doing. Then find something better to do without them. I am forever holding the fort and picking up her duties that she constantly does not get around to. He asked so that he could get a kick out of knowing that I would not only do whatever he asked of me (at that point) but that his wellbeing was the first thing on my mind everyday. At 16 minutes, i either order from the waitress (if it is in a restaurant) and plan to begin eating when the food arrives — or i simply leave. Did you bring something to read just in case? Did you look at the clock? We shouldn’t just label people who are late to be narcissistic and cut them from our life. 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